Comments on: Family learns truth about missing sailor, By Erin Doss , Iroquois County Times-Republic http://ussgrunion.com/blog/2006/11/25/family-learns-truth-about-missing-sailor-erin-doss-iroquois-county-times-republic/ Details and Log reports of the search for the lost WWII Submarine, USS Grunion Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:37:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: pete http://ussgrunion.com/blog/2006/11/25/family-learns-truth-about-missing-sailor-erin-doss-iroquois-county-times-republic/#comment-1827 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:24:23 +0000 http://ussgrunion.com/blog/2006/11/25/family-learns-truth-about-missing-sailor-erin-doss-iroquois-county-times-republic/#comment-1827 Discovery of stealth sub stirs up the ghosts of war http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-2509491,00.html Discovery of stealth sub stirs up the ghosts of war

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]]> by: Arlene Lowney http://ussgrunion.com/blog/2006/11/25/family-learns-truth-about-missing-sailor-erin-doss-iroquois-county-times-republic/#comment-1532 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:41:30 +0000 http://ussgrunion.com/blog/2006/11/25/family-learns-truth-about-missing-sailor-erin-doss-iroquois-county-times-republic/#comment-1532 More From The Plain Dealer | Subscribe To The Plain Dealer Families hail discovery of sunken WWII sub Friday, December 08, 2006 Michael Sangiacomo Plain Dealer Reporter Betty Krueger remembers the day in 1943 when her little sister ran up to her and said their mother had received a telegram from the government. It was about their brother, Ralph J. Youngman, who was serving on the submarine USS Grunion during World War II. "The telegram said he was missing and presumed dead," said Krueger, 85, of Cleveland. "I was pregnant with my son and I decided then to name him Ralph in honor of my brother." It would be 64 years before Krueger would learn what happened to her brother and to the Grunion. The sons of Grunion Cmdr. Mannart "Jim" Abele, working with a Japanese researcher, believe they have found the submarine thousands of feet below the surface of the North Pacific, off the Aleutian Islands. "All the families ever knew was that the sub was on its maiden voyage and disappeared in the Aleutians," Rhonda Raye, a Georgia woman whose great-uncle, Paul Banes, was on the Grunion, said in an e-mail. "They located the sub using side-scanning radar," she said in a telephone interview. "It's 2,000 to 3,000 feet down. It's the right size and location. They can't be absolutely certain it is the Grunion until they can drop a camera into the water and photograph it next year." It's believed the Grunion was sunk on the morning of July 31, 1942, during a battle with the Japanese freighter Kano Maru. Krueger, whose family received that fateful telegram months later, is convinced the mystery has been solved. "I think it's wonderful," she said Thursday. "They should not disturb it, but I would support them if they wanted to do something to commemorate it." Raye has been helping contact the families of the submarine's 70 officers and men to let them know about the discovery. Besides Krueger, Ralph Youngman has four surviving siblings who have been told the news. Raye said family members of all but six of the men who died on the Grunion have been contacted. More information about the submarine can be found at www.ussgrunion.com To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: msangiacomo@plaind.com, 216-999-4890 More From The Plain Dealer | Subscribe To The Plain Dealer
Families hail discovery of sunken WWII sub
Friday, December 08, 2006
Michael Sangiacomo
Plain Dealer Reporter

Betty Krueger remembers the day in 1943 when her little sister ran up to her and said their mother had received a telegram from the government.

It was about their brother, Ralph J. Youngman, who was serving on the submarine USS Grunion during World War II.

“The telegram said he was missing and presumed dead,” said Krueger, 85, of Cleveland. “I was pregnant with my son and I decided then to name him Ralph in honor of my brother.”

It would be 64 years before Krueger would learn what happened to her brother and to the Grunion.

The sons of Grunion Cmdr. Mannart “Jim” Abele, working with a Japanese researcher, believe they have found the submarine thousands of feet below the surface of the North Pacific, off the Aleutian Islands.

“All the families ever knew was that the sub was on its maiden voyage and disappeared in the Aleutians,” Rhonda Raye, a Georgia woman whose great-uncle, Paul Banes, was on the Grunion, said in an e-mail.

“They located the sub using side-scanning radar,” she said in a telephone interview. “It’s 2,000 to 3,000 feet down. It’s the right size and location. They can’t be absolutely certain it is the Grunion until they can drop a camera into the water and photograph it next year.”

It’s believed the Grunion was sunk on the morning of July 31, 1942, during a battle with the Japanese freighter Kano Maru.

Krueger, whose family received that fateful telegram months later, is convinced the mystery has been solved.

“I think it’s wonderful,” she said Thursday. “They should not disturb it, but I would support them if they wanted to do something to commemorate it.”

Raye has been helping contact the families of the submarine’s 70 officers and men to let them know about the discovery. Besides Krueger, Ralph Youngman has four surviving siblings who have been told the news.

Raye said family members of all but six of the men who died on the Grunion have been contacted.

More information about the submarine can be found at www.ussgrunion.com

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

msangiacomo@plaind.com, 216-999-4890

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